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of this week. meanwhile, the nra is losing friends fast. >> there have been 70, 70, episodes of school shootings in the united states, since 1994. >> 54% favor stricter gun control laws. >> do we worry about dropping our kids off at school now? >> i don't know anybody that needs 30 rounds and a clip to go hunting. >> these 30 rounds of ammunition. >> assault magazines, we have got to call them what they are. >> i don't know why, do you need that? we have seen this movie before. >> what is wrong with the congress? >> gun lobbies will say listen we have a score card here. >> the nra pours money into these races. >> you better score an a or we're going to come and defeat you. >> how long can we sustain that action? >> it is the same mentality that drove the grover norquist pledge. >> are we prepared to say we're powerless? >> we can't tolerate this anymore. >> so far republicans have stayed quiet n. >> not a time to put americans through more stress. >> john boehner proposed his fiscal cliff plan b. >> plan b. >> i would call it plan befuddled rejected it. >> there is still hope for a lar
there have been in this country to a sense columbine. >> and the nra facebook page has gone dark. we will speak with lisa graves about big guns and big money. all of that and more coming up. this is "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. residents of newtown, connecticut, have begun holding the first of many kernels for the 27 victims killed in friday's shooting rampage at sandy hook elementary school. on monday, noah pozner and jack pinto, 06 years old, were laid to rest in small caskets. more funerals are slated today including two more 6-year-old victim's, james mattioli and jessica rekos. at the white house, president obama convened a meeting with top officials to discuss ways to respond to the newtown massacre, including potential proposals for gun control. pressed for details, white house press secretary jay carney reduced offer any specifics on how obama plans to address the nation's gun violence. >> is a complex problem that will require a complex solution. no single piece of legislation, no single action will fully address the problem.
their shopping list. are you one of them? plus this. >> shame on the nra! ban assault weapons now! >> remember her? she disrupted a live statement by the national rifle association. how did she sneak past that big sign -- how did she sneak that big sign past all that security? we'll ask her live. >>> politicians, dignitaries, and even a musician. cnn tallies your votes for the most intriguing person of the year and counts them down for u and a small kid making a big difference. this little girl wins a trip of a lifetime to paris, and her actions after that get support from the whole community. >> dear santa, i'm gabriela, the one with the tumor. this is my motto, and i think you should use it too. you might have a bad day today, but there's always a bright star to look forward to tomorrow. >> hear what she did to help dozens of other children fulfill their wishes. "newsroom" starts now. >>> good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for being with me. christians around the world are getting ready to celebrate christmas, which marks the birth of their lord and savior jesus christ. here
something about the guns. the nra statement today is sadly and shamefully inadequate, calling for more guns and rejecting real action against gun violence. at a defining a historic moment for our nation demanding courageous leadership, the nra has declined to step forward as a credible and constructive partner. the proposal for more armed guards in schools may be helpful in some instances, but it falls short of the strong, serious comprehensive action needed to stop the kind of horrific tragedy that occurred last week. many police that spoke to me on that day when we take a said that the killer was so heavily armed that they doubted they could have stopped him. the american people are demanding real change. the nra proposal fails to offer any real protection from violence. members in connecticut and around the country are writing and calling me to say that the nra does not speak for them. it was a call for action. the nra has failed to answer the call. we need to do something about these guns, about the assault weapons, the kind that was used in the new town tragedy. i am very proud to join
association finally breaks its silence. the nra promising to take part in a gun control debate it has scheduled a friday announcement. more on that in a minute. first to the white house and cnn's dan lothian. >> reporter: white house aides say this will be a chance for the president to talk more about the process of setting up this effort which, as you pointed out, will be led by vice president biden. i'm hearing also as part of that effort will involve homeland security, the education department, health and human services and also the justice department will be looking at ways that they can come up with policies to address this issue of gun violence. again, this is the president reacting to some pressure as to what he would do. you know, right after this violent event took place, the president came out and said that he would take action. that his administration in the coming weeks and months would be looking at ways to prevent something like this from happening again. so this is the first visible action that this administration has taken to -- is taking, rather, to meet that demand.
we have a good chance. obviously we're waiting to see what the nra is going to be offering on friday. i am hoping and i have always reached out to them to say that we need to work together. the interest of what we have is a gun safety and trying to make sure that people are not killed. so we will wait until friday to see what they have to say, but i have to say here in congress, trying to reach out and talk to a number of republican friends, they're not committing on anything yet. so i ask if anybody is talking about it on their side of the aisle. apparently, one or two members are, but they have not come board yet. i hope in the coming days and weeks we will start to see more republicans join us. >> you had quite a reaction after white house spokesperson jay carney, right after the massacre, said this. >> there is, i am sure, will be rather a day for discussion of the usual washington policy debates, but i don't think today is that day. >> your response, congressmember mccarthy? >> i was furious. as soon as that press conference was over, i called the white house. listen, we have go
of this unspeakable crime. out of respect for the families and until the facts are known, the n.r.a. has refrained from comment. while some have tried to exploit tragedy for political gain, we have remained respectively silent. now we must speak for the safety of our nation's children. because for all the noise and anger directed at us over the past week, no one, nobody has addressed the most important pressing and immediate question we face, how do we protect our children right now, starting today n a way that we know works? the only way to answer that question is to face the truth. politicians pass laws for gun free school zones, they issue press releases bragging about them. they post signs advertising them. and in doing so, they tell every insane killer in america that schools are the safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk. how have our nation's priorities gotten so far out of order? think about it. we care about our money so we protect our banks with armed guards. american airports, office buildings, power plants, courthouses, even sports stadiums are all protected by armed
's this myth that the nra is this organization that decides who wins and who loses. first what's the difference if you lose. how you can look in a mirror and say to get my campaign going or to win an election i was willing to let more kidsetille i mean somehow or another we have this all mixed up here. we keep talking about is it good or bad for campaigns, is it good or bad politics. i come from a world where if i said that to the press i would just get massacred, what's right. and we have an obligation to help these kids stay alive. and adults as well. and the nra, their number one, to show you how powerless they really are, their number one objection -- objective in this last election was to defeat barack obama for a secretary term. last time i checked, he won. and he won reonably comforbly. i went in, we created a small pact. we put some money in-- a small pac. we put some money into some campaigns for congress, i think five campaigns where the nra supported the other side. we won four of them. and the nra has created this myth that you can't fight them. >> rose: so one objective is to destr
balance that kind of conversation? the sort of nra crowd is saying this is just domestic violence, guns are unrelated. there are statistics out there saying guns make it more likely that it's going to turn deadly. how should that conversation sort of be balanced, do you think? >> i think you are absolutely right. when these things happen, it's too late. what i think is interesting is that the nras hold on the political conversation is actually breaking a little bit. the nra spent a lot of money in the last cycle. they went up against a lot of candidates, lost across the board. i'm hoping their control of the political conversation, i commend mayor bloomburg. he's investing a lot of money and trying to balance out the nra. he's had a lot of victory. it's an important effort. politics have become constrained and the ability to talk about it is constrained. there's a plug at the nra wheels. the less people fear that, politicians, political leaders, the more we engage in a conversation. maybe gun control wasn't the issue per se. background check or other issues. a broader conversation, does
today, we will have live coverage here on the cspan accords. while we wait for the nra to get under way, we spoke earlier with a republican member of congress to get his thoughts on last night's action and the house on fiscal cliff legislation. > >> what happened inside the caucus last night at 7:30. >> it was about the short as one i have ever seen. john boehner said he did not have the vote and we passed the bill, two bills that harry reid has been sitting on and the senate. he said he is available to negotiate. mr. kantor said we would be called back within 48 hours notice and see you after christmas. that's all it was. host: are they negotiate from a position of strength? guest: the speaker has been negotiating as much as he can -- i think the president has not been dealing in good and faith and not negotiating at all. he gave us a plan that was his budget that was voted on in the senate, 99-0 against his budget and in the house, he gets zero votes for it also. that is what the president put on the table. i don't think he has been negotiating in good faith. we need to find solutions
. these are the kinds of laws that can't be changed because of the stranglehold not only the nra, now we've got the koch brothers fund funded program in the mix. last night michigan passed a law making it legal to carry a concealed weapon in a church, in a school, in a daycare center and they also abolished the local county boards that were in charge of supervising the permits that do go out. so we've got these well-funded lobbies, these well-funded efforts to keep politicians on a short leash when it comes to any kind of common sense gun control, and so it's going to take a lot of courage on the part of the president but not just the president, everyone in congress and not just democrats, the nation. >> karen, you've worked previously for the new york education department. give us your perspective on a school like this because, as i understand it, most schools are accessible until about 9:00 a.m., quarter past 9:00, and then the access is closed. yet this individual or indeed the school made the 911 call just after 9:30. >> i'm sure we'll learn more about there was some speculation that perhaps this in
to reach a solution. that is why we are hopeful that something can happen. >> the nra press conference -- >> we will come back to that. >> do you believe there are 122 republicans who are willing to vote for a deal that democrats and the president can back? and what other concessions are democrats in the house willing to put on the table? >> in return for what? >> 120 republicans. >> the package is the package. it is not about us. it is what it means to the great middle class. when we did the much talked about iraq vote, there were 86 democrats, over 140 democrats voting against. that is 60% of my caucus against what i brought to the floor. 120 is not the number. the number is, what does it mean to middle income families? >> the president has already met the republicans more than halfway. i think people who have been following these negotiations recognize the president has already moved remarkably over a short time. remember that he originally proposed a revenue of 1.6 trillion dollars. people who have been following the conversation now that is less revenue than proposed by the bipart
for the families and until the facts are known, the nra has refrained from comment. >> harris: and the group's ceo placing some blame. >> we have flood soaked films out there. vicious, violent video games. >> and the nra offering a proposal, an armed officer in every single school in america. also, mexican police locked up this former u.s. marine months ago, accused him of trying to bring a gun into the country. >> a lesser person would have pleaded guilty. >> they chained him to a bed and reportedly threatened his life. but this marine stayed strong. and now time finally to come home. i'm harris faulkner in tonight for shepard smith. and we begin tonight with president obama's new move to reshape his cabinet. at the white house today he announced massachusetts senator john kerry as his pick for the next secretary of state. >> john has played a central role in every major foreign policy debate for nearly 30 years. as we turn the page on a decade of war, he understands that we have got to it harness all elements of american power and ensure that they are working together. >> the president then sayi
by the nra? >> well, i would imagine that there are members who are trying to get a 100% score from the nra, which is then used to campaign, raise money against a person who does not have the 100%. but i -- i really think that the overwhelming majority of americans are sane and they are interested in seeing that this at lee is minimized. this kind of mindless act is minimized. but look, as painful for me it is to say there are individuals no in congress who may believe it is time to ban assault weapons but who might not want to do it because they don't want the barrage of nra money and opposition coming in their direction. >> glad you said that congressman clear. i want to thank you for your concerned and your time. >> good to be one. >> thank you. >>> next up, new information on the mother of the gunman and the cache of weapons she kept in their house. for those with visions of doing this... ...this... ...and this, dancing in their heads... ...we have these. home depot gift cards. give the gift of doing, in-store or online. military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know military l
want to continue the nra policies of always trying to get more guns on the street as opposed to sensible gun regulation. >> congresswoman carolyn, i want to thank both of you for being with us. >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. tonight we have an hour to get on top of this horrific tragedy up in connecticut, to get our heads around it, to understand why this happened, how things like this do happen. of course take much longer. but let's get to it. we've got michelle franzen on the scene in newtown, connecticut, cliff van zandt, former fbi profiler and nbc oonlt. we've got psychologist jeff weiner and psychologist jeff gardere. nbc white house correspondent kristen welker, u.s. congresswoman carolyn mccarthy who entered politics after her husband was killed in a shooting on a suburban commuter train. larry johnson the president of the national association of school safety and law enforcement officials. and jamd baldwin, baltimore county police chief. first we go for an immediate update to my msnbc colleague michelle franzen. michelle, thank you for staying wi
today. >> thank you, sir. >> nra leaders remain staunchly opposed to tougher gun laws. that's two weeks after the newtown massacre. but one lawmakers thinks that the nra members actually favor new laws. >>> and ex-cia military director and top military man david petraeus now on top of the list of this year's worst scandals. >>> as americans grapple with how to curb gun violence after the newtown massacre, nra leaders remain opposed to tougher laws. but one lawmaker thinks that the stance of the nra leadership is out of step with its members. joining me now is virginia congressman jim moran. briefly, let me ask you first about the fiscal cliff because i have you here. you and your members will get back to work tomorrow. i'm wondering is there going to be a last ditch effort to avoid this and what do you think is going to happen? >> i think the likelihood is that we go over the cliff, martin. and, of course, that's my primary focus because my congressional district would be the hardest hit if beat go over the fiscal cliff. i've got tens of thousands of federal employees and a great deal o
is the nra to deal with on these issues? i mean, talk about the power that the nra wields. >> look, i think actually the nra's power is more perceived than real, alex. when i heard the news yesterday and like jimmy, i grew up with a rifle. i grew up in pennsylvania. we went hunting. we never had handguns around but we had a rifle in the house. and we used it for hunting. that was it. but i think a lot of us who were in the hunting community have much more tolerance for stricter regulation of the handguns and especially certain kinds of handguns than most people per sooechlt and i think you see that in the polling. when i heard the news yesterday as a father of two children who i send out to public school here in washington, d.c. every day, a city that has outlawed guns but still has a very high crime rate, and the husband of a public schoolteacher, i just wanted to see my wife and two kids as quickly as possible and hug them and know that they're okay. like all other parents, i think, in the country, including the president felt when we heard the news yesterday. >> well, i can echo that. i
to the newtown attack. bill plante is at nra headquarters in fairfax, virginia, just outside of washington. bill, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, norah. the nra is one of washington's most powerful lobbying groups. but for four days after the killings in newtown, it had nothing to say. nothing on its website, on facebook or on twitter. but tuesday with politicians of every stripe now calling for some kind of action, the nra broke its silence. saying that it was shocked, saddened, and heartbroken by the murders and that it had refrained from commenting out of respect for the families. in a statement the nra said it is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. and that it will offer more details at a news conference on friday. in congress, the leader of senate republicans joined the chorus of politicians who are suggesting that something needs to be done. >> as we continue to learn the facts congress will examine whether there is an appropriate and constitutional response that would better protect our citizens. >> reporter: the white house spok
-called fiscal cliff. >> we are going to talk to david gregory with the nra ceo today. >>> also ahead, the factor spoiling the fun and the joy this time of year for some people. stay with us. >>> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> and those words from the head of the national rifle association refuelled a heated debate over gun control in the country, and la pierre will speak exclusively with david gregory this morning. >> we're happy to have him back on "meet the press" and have lots of questions for him about what role if any the nra plans to play in the discussion, and a lot of people were shocked, and he talked about arming schools around the country, about one-third of the schools around the country already do that. that's a popular idea. that will cause debate. there's a big focus on gun control regulations and the extent to which the nra will be part of that is something we will learn this morning. >> and we are seeing more politicians calling for tighter gun restrictions. is this a courageous move considering all strong the gun lobby is? >> well, m
. >> david, one thing that came out of your interview they've thought was interesting that the nra i didn't think would ever be on, he was calling for forcing states to participate more. if you're the obama administration and you're looking for the nra's help on something, well, forcing states to participate more on the background checks, all of these things that aren't happening, if the nra is going to do that and force these conservative republicans governors to sign legislation that did that, that would be a step. >> andrea, i want to talk about the second term cabinet. chuck hagel did not get a ringing endorsement from senator schumer or -- >> what senator schumer said was really very revealing. if a democratic senator is not going to come to chuck hagel's defense, i think there is serious problems there. >> he did not come to his defense. this is going to be the second consecutive nomination where the president doesn't get his first choice. >> this white house cannot continue to float trial balloons and then not have them shot down. the president can't get what perceived to be rolled
like the shooting at sandy hook elementary. the n-r-a c-e-o is not budging from the stance he took on friday, arguing for armed guards in schools. >> "if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy." >> reporter: asa hutchinson is the former under secretary for border and transportation security, and is working with the n-r-a on this measure. he compares it to air marshals on planes. calling the armed security a "deterrent", an effective way to protect people without the visible presence of weapons. >> "schools are a sensitive environment as well, but you can provide safety and security with armed, trained personnel without putting fear in anyone." >> reporter: new york senator charles schumer says gun violence is down: >> "but we have to keep working on this. and there are lots of different solutions. the pro-gun people who say don't include guns are wrong and the pro gun safety people like myself who say don't look at other solutions is wrong." >> reporter: i'm elizabeth corridan reporting. >> coming up this
guns and called for armed security officers in every school in america. and david gregory says the nra is used to facing criticism and in the past emerged unscathed. >> we have seen this kind of popular outrage, if you will, after these massacres and then nothing actually comes of it. the political decision will be the president's in terms of how hard he wants to drive this. >> wayne lapierre will sit down with david gregory. you can catch it here on nbc 4. >>> and president obama and the first lady will join others in saying good-bye to the senator. he fought in world war ii and was awarded the medal. he became the first japanese to become elected to the senate, and he was 88 years old. it will be a short holiday trip for the president, and he will return to washington after christmas to deal with the dooming fiscal cliff. president obama said the break is good for lawmakers to think about a possible solution and he suggested a smaller deal that would just extend unemployment benefits and prevent middle class tax hikes. if no deal is reached by january 1st, everybody's taxes go up and
. it holds five. >> reporter: even the national rifle association chimed in to say, "the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to make sure this never happens again." >> reporter: white house spokesman jay carney says the president is actively supporting a bill to reinstate the assault weapons ban, which expired in 2004. michelle? >> marlie, you were talking about kids going back to school and it was a day of mixed emotion. tell me what the mood is like after that. i'm sure it's really hard for parents to send their kids back to school but the community seems to be taking steps forward. >> reporter: well, understandably, people are still devastated although resuming classes restored some sense of routine, people -- it was still not a typical day. students went back to school with security. parents, students and teachers still grief-stricken and not much work was done because they were talking about the tragic events that took place on friday. >> no kidding. and any word yet on when the sandy hook elementary students when they are going to return to school? >> reporter: well,
. >> we need a rationale gun policy and need to get it out of the hands of the nra boys. >> reporter: in district heights, maryland today, about two dozen men, women, and children gathered outside of the gun shop they say helps contribute to the gun violence in communities. >> my nephew who lived in richmond, virginia, was killed five years ago so, yeah, i know. >> the purpose will come. make no mistake about, that the protests will come. >> reporter: they say guns send too many young people to their their graves and prison. >> we must not rely on physical violence to resolve our human problems. >> reporter: the owner of realco gun said he doesn't give interviews, never has and never will. >> reporter: back here, there is still a long line to get into the gun show and the nra is offering a deal, join up and get one for free. >> and thank you. >>> the victims of a deadly accident in springfield were on the way to a funeral. it happened last night at the mixing bowl where 95 meets the beltway in springfield. police say an 87-year-old pennsylvania man was behind the wheel of a pickup tr
that policy out of the hands of the nra bullies. >> reporter: in district heights, maryland, today about two dozen men, women and children gathered outside a gun shop they say helps contribute to gun violence in our communities. >> my nephew who lived in richmond, virginia, was killed about five years ago from a gun. so yeah, i know what it like. >> the protests will come -- what it's like. >> the protests will come. make no mistake about that, but today is prayer time. >> reporter: they say guns send too mto their graves or prison. >> my basic pint and point i try to make in my preaching -- point and point i try to make in my preaching is we must not rely on violence to resolve our problems. >> reporter: the owner of the gun store he doesn't give interviews, never has, never will. the nra back here is offering a deal, join up and get into the gun show for free. >>> the victims of a deadly accident in springfield were apparently on their way to a funeral. this happened last night at the springfield interchange where 95 meets the beltway. police say an 87-year-old man from pennsylvania was
. >> the n.r.a. blasted in the media for call for armed guard in schools, and guess what, his approval rating higher than the president. so why won't they talk about that? we will next. >> a dramatic new video after deadly plane crash, the act moment a huge jet crashes into the highway. >> can you imagine being na driver? >> oh! >> welcome back, the mainstream media mock being the head of the n.r.a., all shoes should have guards, a gallup poll shows 54% of americans have a favorable opinion of the national rifle association. why is the mainstream media so harsh on them? joining us now is a contributor to the daily collar, good morning to you jeff. >> good morning, thanks for having me on. >> i would say so. and it's a little rough on the n.r.a., but if you look at the overall approval rating, they think higher than president obama and higher than the media covering as well. >> dave: maybe the speech from wayne lapierre didn't represent perfectly members of the n.r.a. i know, some weren't happy about maybe the lack of consoling to the victims and maybe some sensible proposal for some sort of
afraid of the nra, we'd all be a lot better off. >> a free people should be an armed people. once you start drawing the line where do you stop? >> and all that matters. >> ♪ silent snit ♪ . >> she was the best mother anybody could ask for. >> she was the type of person that could just light up the room. i'm so blessed to be her dad. >> on "cbs this morning." >> god has called them all home. for those of us who remain let us find the strength to carry on and make our country worthy of their memory. >>> welcome to "cbs this morning." i'm charlie rose in new york. norah o'donnell is in newtown, connecticut. norah, good morning. >> charlie, good morning. as you wake up on the west coast, this new england town is still in shock over the deaths of 28 people including 20 young children. the first funerals are taking place later today for two 6-year-old boys and last night president obama led the mourners at a prayer vigil for the victims. jeff glor is here with that story. jeff, good morning. >> norah, good morning to you. before his speech last night, president obama to
've got to do things differently. >> what about the nra? >> well, the nra is an organization that has members who are mothers and fathers. and i would expect that they've been impacted by this as well. and hopefully they'll do some self-reflection. and here's what we know -- that any single gun law can't solve all these problems. we're going to have to look at mental health issues. we're going to have to look at schools. there are going to be a whole range of things that joe's group looks at. we know that issues of gun safety will be an element of it. and what we've seen over the last 20 years, 15 years, is the sense that anything related to guns is somehow an encroachment on the second amendment. what we're looking for here is a thoughtful approach that says we can preserve our second amendment, we can make sure that responsible gun owners are able to carry out their activities, but that we're going to actually be serious about the safety side of this; that we're going to be serious about making sure that something like newtown or aurora doesn't happen again. and there is a big chunk
loophole, the nra has broken its silence of the sandy hook massacre in a statement they said out of respect for families and as a matter of common decency... they plan to hold a news conference friday in washington. president preckwinkle saying that the board is standing by its assault rifle ban asking the state to do the same we have a band here in cook county which is under court challenge so we proceeded to defend the ban and we would hope that the state of illinois as well would defend assault weapons the names of all victims were read at the meeting today. board members also expressed concern that the victims should not be forgotten and action should be taken. so many people still suffering without heat or homes after the hurricane, how chicago police are still lending a hand for the holidays. we check in with another group that helped so many during sandy. he can't even spell the word hero yet but tonight he sure is being called one a story you will not want to miss is coming up. ♪ this holiday when kmart shop your way members check out, they can win... ... a trip to universal orla
violence. this morning, after days of silence, the nra, the nation's most powerful gun lobby, announced that it will hold a press conference on friday. and they say they're prepared to make meaningful contributions so tragedies like sandy hook never happen again. are we in the precipice of a sea change? about how this nation deals with guns? >> why the hell can you buy a weapon of mass destruction? that's what it is. that's the first thing that should be gone. >> there have been 70, 70 episodes of school shootings in the united states, since 1994. good lord. really? i mean, should there be that many? >> reporter: big-city mayors and one of the nation's biggest police unions have called for a ban on assault rifles and high-capacity clips. and for some longtime allies of the gun lobby, this week was a tipping point. >> never in my life did i ever think we would have 20 children slaughtered. so, it changed everything. >> reporter: there's signs this morning that everyone, including those that sell guns, are reassessing. at least for now. walmart has stopped online sales of the bushmaster r
guns. the nra should stop, they won't. we should stop them from being enablers of mass murder. >> being the national rifle association. congressman, thanks very much for your perspective. >> thank you. >> jerriey edjerry. >>> former chief economist at the u.s. sentencing commission and author of the third edition of the book "more guns, less crimes." thank you very much for coming in. i'll give you a chance to respond. the united states has a lot more murders, you just heard from congressman nadler. he said it's because there are so many guns that are so easiil available out there. >> well, you look at the murder rates in the other countries whether if be germany he just mentioned or others and they had lower murder rates relative to the united states before they had the gun control laws. when britain, other countries, ireland, jamaica, other places imposed gun bans, murder rates went up. americans have seen that in places like chicago and washington, d.c. every place in the world that we have crime data both before and after a gun ban has gone into effect, every single place has seen a
, the organization that is duty bound to enforce these laws. the nra said last week that we should have more enforcement of our gun laws, yet they have made every effort to block enforcement, every effort to have these gaping loopholes in the law that make it almost impossible to do that. >> gun owners for offered a gift certificate worth up to two murder dollars a local grocery chain in exchange for their weapons. -- were offered up to $200 at a local grocery chain in exchange for the weapons. two down on her said there were moved up by the tragedy in connecticut. >> i always thought they should have something like it anyway. regardless of what happens, too bad we wait for something like that to happen to decide to get rid of the pistols and the guns and rifles. >> too many people get killed with guns, small guns, rifles, handguns or any kind of gun. i am here to help get rid of the guns i have. >> an york papers drawn controversy for publishing a list of the names and addresses of every single registered gun permit holder in its readership area. westchester county's "the journal news" ran
about the nra? >> well, the nra is an organization that has members who are mothers and fathers. i would expect that they've been impacted by this as well, and hopefully they'll do some self-reflection. here's what we know. that any single gun law can't solve all these problems. we're going to have to look at mental health issues and look at schools. there's a whole range of things that joe's group looks at. we know that issues of gun safety will be an element of it. you know, what we've seen over the last 20 years, 15 years is this sense that anything related to guns is somehow an encroachment on the second amendment. what we're looking for is here a thoughtful approach that says, we can preserve our second amendment. we can make sure that responsible gun owners are able to carry out their activities, but that we're going to actually be serious about the safety side of this. that we're going to be serious about making sure that something like newtown or aurora doesn't happen again. there is a big chunk of space between what, you know, the second amendment means and having no rules at al
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